Yes, both.
Is it fair to expect someone to break what they know are the rules and conditions? Or are we not supposed to care, cause it's only Paypal...it's not like DSF lineup times or scrappers? Like Grim said several posts ago, sellers agree to the TOS when they sign up. In ye olden days, we all sent checks and money orders around so Paypal is not the only option. Or like Merryweather mentioned, sellers on Ebay KNOW they have to build the fees into their prices, not add ons at the end that get charged to some people. If a seller need to set a higher price FOR THE PIN, then there is no reason they can't. But people like Paypal for the convenience, the speed and the protections. If sellers benefit from those aspects then shouldn't they expect to pay for them?
Obviously, me too. I just don't understand why doing the correct thing is the wrong thing. But I can certainly tell by the responses that that's what it is.
I've had to come to terms with how uncomfortable I feel every time I'm asked to gift or pay fees by strangers when I know they could figure it out before they post sale threads, like Ebay, and I have significantly cut back on my purchases here. I get way too anxious sitting around waiting for a package to arrive. And then I see multiple threads with people wondering where their pins are because someone has gone AWOL, and refunds for the pre-sales, it makes me even more upset about the situation, because it seems so completely unnecessary.
And in case it isn't clear, I'm not expecting anyone to be out money. But there are multiple ways to set prices, there are multiple options for payment. I would expect that if DPF were to adopt rules, that listed pin prices would go up. But I disagree with having a setup that has someone having to knowingly break the rules (or lose buyer protections by using gift) to participate. I would never turn someone into Paypal either (although, now that I think about it, I wonder if that would work as a scam, for the scammy scammy people. Pay a fee and then turn them in and dispute the charge. If what someone said about someone picked up a pin in person, and they claimed they never got it, why not...), but it would be naive to assume that Paypal does not know this is an issue for them. While I was Googling this issue and how other boards dealt with it yesterday, some people reported having their account flagged for excessive gift payments. So as impossible as it seems, I don't want to find my fellow pin traders on the wrong end of things with Paypal. Paypal's profits are slowing according to yesterday's news reports, so they're gonna be looking for new profit. And I would bet that identifying people who are misusing their services are on the list.
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