Does the tone of the transaction affect your enjoyment of the pin?

Discussion in 'Disney Pin Discussion' started by ladyroselie, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. ladyroselie

    ladyroselie Water Talent Fairy

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    I was wondering, does the tone of the transaction ever affect your enjoyment of your pins?

    So I'm not talking about bad sellers or scammers, just when something is a little off and you feel kind of weird, but the trade or sale goes through safely. If the seller was snobby or the trader was a little cold, do you think of that when you see your pin, or LE doll, or other knick knack?

    It happened to me once with a 2011 Designer Aurora doll. The eBay seller didn't give tracking, so when the doll didn't come some time after the estimated date I used eBay's "where's my item?" feature. The seller sent me a nasty message, "Why didn't you just message me I need that money for rent and now PayPal put a hold on me!" While, I used that feature because it was what was listed under the "contact seller" button... and using eBay myself for years I have never had a hold put on my account even when USPS lost an item and the buyer was super angry (I got them the insurance $ and refunded them, but it took some time). So it makes me think this seller had issues before. After that she miraculously had a tracking number to send me that showed the doll was delayed. If it had just been uploaded in the first place I could have kept an eye on the shipping myself and never had to bother her.

    All that being said, I eventually sold the doll. It just reminded me how upset the seller was and how mortified I was that sending the wrong type of message through eBay could freeze someone's PayPal funds. For pins, I've mostly had good transactions, but I was wondering if the same type of thing happened if I would keep the pin, and it made me wonder what other collectors think.
     
  2. coblj003

    coblj003 DPF Charter Member DPF Correspondent

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    I don't think you did anything wrong on your part, maybe it let you consider communicating first but it isn't like you were scamming that person back. What they did was extreme but should have been given anyway then letting it take place how it did. I have seen how someone's tone does come back to haunt them later on; While misfortunes may happen, they could've prevented it from happening if they had communicated what was going on rather then letting it play-out and receiving negative feedback and drama all around(including up to banning)...
     
  3. ladyroselie

    ladyroselie Water Talent Fairy

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    That's true karma does play a part. I think that it also depends on how you associate memories. For example, I have some toys that me and my boyfriend got together on a toy hunt, those are so special because I remember the fun we had. I guess I was just wondering if the reverse is true for other people, if you have a bad memory of getting the item does it affect how you enjoy it....
     
  4. cyke23

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    I haven't had that negative experience, so I feel lucky. I think though it wouldn't affect me that much especially if the transaction was with a "stranger" and as long as the pin came in as expected (quality-wise). My very non-Disney partner went to WDW with me a few years ago and needed a distraction. I gave him the task of finding me the macaron hidden mickey pins. He ended up getting all of them for me, and I will cherish those pins forever because 1) I love that he did that with me and 2) I love macarons. That's a cherished memory. For the tons of other pins, I don't remember who people are at all (some exceptions on this forum), but for FB/IG, definitely don't remember at all. And yet, if there was a bad taste, then I probably wouldn't buy from that person again (unless a pin grail or something for a great price). Hmm, I just realized I did a 180.
     
  5. ladyroselie

    ladyroselie Water Talent Fairy

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    That sounds like such a sweet memory! I didn't think of it originally, but I also cherish pins more that have a special meaning or came from a good transaction. I bought a little Disney Fairies Prilla pin and the next day my boyfriend got a job that enabled us to move down to CA like we had been wanting to do for years, so now I think of it as a bit of a good luck charm.

    I agree, on eBay especially if I get a weird vibe I try to avoid that seller in the future, even if the original deal went fine. I get most on my pins from eBay honestly, just because at this time it make more sense for me to buy my Wants then to pursue good traders.
     
  6. PixiePost

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    So far, I've been extremely fortunate in pin trading and have very few negative experiences - and none that were directly linked to any one pin that I feel bad about. But I definitely get what you're talking about.

    I went through a bad breakup a few years ago - and for an embarrassingly long time, I couldn't stop thinking about it. Every day brought waves of renewed anger. One of the most therapeutic things I did was going through all my possessions and donating everything that reminded me of that person... including gifts, notes, tapes we watched together, etc. When I wasn't surrounded by all that "stuff," I found it a lot easier to move on.

    If something in your space reminds you of a bad experience each time you look at it, or makes you feel anything but joy inside, it has a sort of power. Luckily, you have the power to kick it out of your life - and hopefully into someone else's life where it can do good instead!

    For what it's worth, it sounds like that seller had issues that had NOTHING to do with you, and you shouldn't feel bad in the least. But if that doll WAS making you feel bad or uncomfortable regardless, I think you made the right decision. I hope all the dolls that come into your collection from here on out carry nothing but good vibes. <3
     
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  7. ladyroselie

    ladyroselie Water Talent Fairy

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    Thank you so much for the good vibes! For space reasons I don't have many dolls anymore, but I am totally digging pins for the cute factor and convenient size! Maybe someday I'll be lucky enough to get the Designer Aurora pin (....that's just a dream really, lol).

    I really appreciate your post because I totally get what you mean about things holding memories that can have positive/negative power! Sometimes I worry that I am too sensitive to things so it is always nice when people get what I am talking about :D
    I have certainly had items in my life, mostly from family, that made me sad or angry. So if I could sell them easily I did and if not then they were donated. Clearing that space can have a very therapeutic effect. I guess that applies to collectibles too.
     
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  8. Badockins

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    We have only traded at the parks and no online yet (maybe soon because I have some that I would like to trade). Cast member trading is always enjoyable for my 4 and 5 year old. We had one trading moment with a non-cast member that seemed like it was going to go a little sour, but it quickly turned around. I still think the lady that was trying to convince my 5 year old to take a crappy pin (but my daughter wasn't falling for it and stood her ground) wasn't happy when she walked away, but at least it didn't go as I feared.
     
  9. ladyroselie

    ladyroselie Water Talent Fairy

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    Good on your daughter for standing her ground! I think that is the kind of attitude that can keep a transaction from going sour.
     
  10. KT07

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    I think this hobbie and how we feel about it is kind of up to us and how we treat it. Some people put so much into the hobbie that a trip to DLR or WDW is no longer about family fun or good times. It is just about the pin or pins. There is the problem at least in my opinion. If you just do pins on the side of all your other Disney magic, you will find they take on a whole new meaning. We have not traded much online, almost everything is face to face at the parks. So almost all our pins are linked to a trip or a person we meet on a trip. Along with that came the fact that our best pins and hardest to find pins just happened to fall in our lap when we least expected it. I truly feel that is the real Disney Magic. It just happens on its own, you can not rush or force it to happen. I can go on for ever about all the great things that have just happened for us over the years but it's to much for here. Just know that the magic is real and all you have to do is sit back and enjoy the ride.
     
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  11. shooting4ownhand

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    I've had bad experiences on ebay. I think everyone who uses the site has. I've been burned with a trade before and learned my lesson about not having tracking numbers. But from the bad experiences on ebay, I honestly don't remember what collectibles they were associated with. My bad experiences are usually just sellers being rude if they took forever and a day to ship something. I've gotten lucky that I haven't gotten any fake items or damaged items from ebay. Some of those sellers were lucky because the packaging of the item was horrendous. So no, I haven't sold/traded a pin or other collectible because the experience I had getting it. I've got some pins and collectibles I will never sell because they were gifted to me. Some grails took awhile to find and I won't sell/trade them.
     
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  12. SeanotheDead516

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    I think to a degree for me it definitely can sour my feeling on a particular acquisition. I know when I first really started getting into pin trading I bought a rare LE Sleeping Beauty pin for my girlfriend at the time. A few years later we broke up and I hated that pin. Despite us both being huge Disney fans I later found out she thought my hobby was silly and didn’t even like the pin. I traded it away at the parks a few years later for practically nothing. I definitely think that our collectibles can have negative feelings attached to them based on different situations so I can definitely understand your feeling about a new collectible being tainted by a seller with a poor attitude.

    Ironically I traded that pin with a different girlfriend present who later became my wife. She immediately became hooked on pin trading and now has a bigger collection than I do.

    I get what you’re saying though about having a bad experience and no longer caring about the item you bought. You’re definitely not the only one.
     
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  13. ladyroselie

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    I'm so glad your story had a happy ending! It definitely helps when one's partner understands their collections. My boyfriend doesn't like pins, but we both collect toys and knick knacks, and this year will be our 10th anniversary!

    I think that the negative or positive feelings can increase when it is a person you know that influenced the pin or collectible. When it is just a bad seller or trader I think that might be able to fade away with time, or if a collection grows so big you can't remember where you even got things any more ;)
     
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