PODM Releases

[Applecore]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the CM's at the register would simply put two pins on the counter and give you a choice to buy them or pass? Oh that would make trading those really interesting, yes? It would certainly get rid of some of the Ebay sellers.

Feedback?

 

[PrincessPirate]

I think it's a terrible idea. Why punish everyone for the actions of a few bad eggs?

On a more practical note, what would then happen if they were passed on? Would they then be just offered to the next person? That seems to run the risk of there being two bad frames that no-one wants. On the other hand, you can't offer the next person different ones; that wouldn't be fair on the first person. Imagine if you got offered two scenes of say Flounder's behind, and the next person got offered two good shots of Ariel. I'd be pretty annoyed.

 

[RiftRaftStreetRat]

I think the four per person is a great idea. It's when you get groups of people that it becomes a problem. It gives you just enough to have options.

TBH I just think the DLR crowd is just a tad bit crazy. While I did get to DLR at 6:30, I tried doing everything as relaxed as I could.

 

[Goofy_Moe]

with a 200 person line behind me like at Westward Ho... I woukd buy them no questions asked...

 

[PrincessxJasmine89]

Hmm, maybe not such a good idea... PrincessPirate explained pretty well lol. I do agree some eBay sellers would be very disheartened! I suppose they'd buy anyway for their trouble, and reap what they can get...

To be quite honest, I'm not sure what the solution is to the PODM crazy releases, apart from enhanced/tightening of the lineup and 2 per person rules... Cast Members should probably try and keep the lines more organised But then again, if people start complaining to Disney too much, we might get no more PODM releases, or something else we don't want... in my opinion, the releases are what they are, and they are pretty well organised from what I've heard, it's the rude buyers that need to be sorted out! Just my 2 cents though. At least the Tangled one is over, and we can kind of expect regular releases (at least until UP!)

 

[Applecore]

Exactly folks, let's get rid of the rude buyers! For some reason my crystal ball says they are going to stop giving out the exact release dates for all pins and simply say 'Coming in ______'. Oh that would make life very interesting...lol

 

[Lamorak]

How about they put out four pins, from which to choose, and start the five minute timer? Once the five minutes run out, you have fifteen seconds to choose or get out of line.

I'm also a proponent of a more organized line. The free for all rush, at rope drop, is rediculous. How difficult is it to line up at the rope, along the side, and remain in line while moving up to the next queue in an orderly fashion? Surely, Disney can make a couple of signs, have CM meeting, and get this done.

 

[bombardon3]

They should hand out a voucher at the entrance turnstiles that can be used to buy 2 pins. Same system they use to sell candy canes at Christmas.

 

[TheOtherSteve]

The RSVP wristbands were the best - everyone had an equal chance and if you got your wristband, you got the pins as long as you arrived before 1pm. None of this getting up at midnight (or earlier) to stand in line for 9+ hours...or running like a bat out of heck (sic) to get to one of the selling places when the parks open. Depending on how many wristbands were allocated based on the sign up, that number of pins could be reserved at LGM (plus a few extras) and the rest distributed to the other locations to be put out after 1 pm (so the wristband people weren't hitting the other locations early and then hit LGM last).

Of course, with the new annual pass pricing (Premium is now $649), many pin collectors will have to settle for getting their pins at WoD, the hotels or Pin Traders. If you go to the park just once a month to buy pins in the parks, there would be an extra $54 because of the cost of the AP. If you factor in the AP discount of 20% (for the Premium), you would have to spend $3250 (~$281 / month) to recover the cost of the AP. I'm not sure most (just) collectors could really afford that

 

[Romancing_Train]

I think the four per person is a great idea. It's when you get groups of people that it becomes a problem. It gives you just enough to have options.

TBH I just think the DLR crowd is just a tad bit crazy. While I did get to DLR at 6:30, I tried doing everything as relaxed as I could.

I honestly think it would be a great idea. i mean maybe they could swap ONE out each person that way no 1 person is getting jipped 2?

 

[sincitychip]

That is stupid idea. Pin traders are making Disney a nice profit! I have heard you very recently in person say that you had to get a certain amount of money out of selling some pins in order for it to be worth it. So why are you complaining as if you don't do the same thing? I personally like the way disney does it you get handed 4-5 you pick the two you want. Who says the two you pick are going to be the cells that sell for hundreds on ebay. I know that the scene I picked for tangled I thought was gonna be good sure the heck is not the one that got sold for $400 but non the less it's what I like and that is what makes everyone's pin collection even that much better!

 

[PrincessDinah]

That is stupid idea. Pin traders are making Disney a nice profit! I have heard you very recently in person say that you had to get a certain amount of money out of selling some pins in order for it to be worth it. So why are you complaining as if you don't do the same thing? I personally like the way disney does it you get handed 4-5 you pick the two you want. Who says the two you pick are going to be the cells that sell for hundreds on ebay. I know that the scene I picked for tangled I thought was gonna be good sure the heck is not the one that got sold for $400 but non the less it's what I like and that is what makes everyone's pin collection even that much better!

Yours might not be THE one that sold for $400, but you DID just list today the same identical scene on ebay also. And you've got several others listed for sale for a nice profit as well.

As of 5/29, you've sold 5 Tangled scenes for a total of $619.12. You've got another Tangled auction ending tomorrow that is already $362.99 and the DSF books at $149.78 with over 2 days left on that.

No wonder you don't want Disney to change their methods on the PODM releases.

 

[tinkerbelle1956]

And then there is me that only wanted one or two pins for my grand daughter . Thank God I have a couple of friends that came through . Everyone is not all for themselves and screw everyone else .

 

[erudolf]

I don't think the problem was the way these were released. This release was particularly bad because it was Tangled which is really popular and because it was a holiday weekend so there were probably tons of out of town people there for this release that typically aren't there. So that explains the gobs of people.

The prices are a different story. Sure, with more people at the release the prices were sure to go up some, but something is fishy about some of these auctions. I think there is some major shill bidding going on. It seems to me that one or a few people banded together to drive the prices up and see just how much they could get for these. A scene ending very soon is way above an exact same scene that is BIN. So why would someone pay $100+ more for a pin they could buy for way cheaper right now? Oh, and the account driving up the price is also brand new.... It just doesn't make sense. I get that Tangled is popular but most cels were pretty decent. I think one of the worst PODMs released was Peter Pan because it had a lot of roof tops and cels with no characters. A good cel with Tinker was bringing $150 and there were a lot fewer of them available than the top scenes for Tangled.... I just there is some definite shadiness with these auctions...

Edit: Yep, definite shill bidding. I looked into it a particular seller's auctions that had extremely high bids. New seller, zero feed back. Five recently ended auctions. When you look at the bidders you will see a brand new account, also with zero feedback, driving the prices up. This same accout had bids on each and every one of this seller's completed auctions. And when you click on that bidder's ID it shows their bidding habits and that account has only bid on five auctions total. Now, why would a brand new account bid on all auctions from one seller with zero feedback when the same items are available BIN for cheaper from other sellers?

I strongly caution anyone considering dropping a lot of money on one of these pins to really think it through.

 

[IsaacandAmanda]

Im glad my gal and I dont collect these pins. well she does but i dont. But I think the surprise release is a good idea. Might relieve some stress. Wristband is good. I wouldnt like if she didnt get picked to get any. I dont know. All ideas look good. Im still new so maybe I should keep my mouth shut

 

[C.Fr3dricks3n]

Im glad my gal and I dont collect these pins. well she does but i dont. But I think the surprise release is a good idea. Might relieve some stress. Wristband is good. I wouldnt like if she didnt get picked to get any. I dont know. All ideas look good. Im still new so maybe I should keep my mouth shut

Hmmm. It won't happen but what if for November they released The Nightmare Before Christmas? I'm guessing a long drive would be involved. The PODM is important to only the ones who collect that specific theme and individual cell. As everyone knows, I'll be there for UP but was not there for any of the releases prior to this one. To each their own, to collect, sell or trade.

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[starry_solo]

Whoever won the ebay auction for $ more than what the "going" price is should report it to ebay (the shill bidding). That might be a good idea and the seller may get less (if anything)....

 

[unibear]

I've reported the shill bidding just like what erudolf has described once in the past. eBay said that they had heard from a couple other eBay members about the same seller, but they did absolutely nothing. The customer representative told me that maybe I should ask the seller to refund some of my money, but eBay was officially going to do nothing!

 

[starry_solo]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the CM's at the register would simply put two pins on the counter and give you a choice to buy them or pass? Oh that would make trading those really interesting, yes? It would certainly get rid of some of the Ebay sellers.

Feedback?

This is what they did at The Contemporary (Fantasia) for the Tangled release. Course, there were 4 people in front of me & LT, 6 people in front of Greg & Debby (the 4 in front of me, me, and LT). So, the two guys got first pick and I heard one of them got Max. They put 2 out, the 4 people in front decided whether they wanted it first, then took 2 more out. Eventually, all 8 of us ended up with 16 pins total.

 

[movingthestars]

I don't think the problem was the way these were released. This release was particularly bad because it was Tangled which is really popular and because it was a holiday weekend so there were probably tons of out of town people there for this release that typically aren't there. So that explains the gobs of people.

The prices are a different story. Sure, with more people at the release the prices were sure to go up some, but something is fishy about some of these auctions. I think there is some major shill bidding going on. It seems to me that one or a few people banded together to drive the prices up and see just how much they could get for these. A scene ending very soon is way above an exact same scene that is BIN. So why would someone pay $100+ more for a pin they could buy for way cheaper right now? Oh, and the account driving up the price is also brand new.... It just doesn't make sense. I get that Tangled is popular but most cels were pretty decent. I think one of the worst PODMs released was Peter Pan because it had a lot of roof tops and cels with no characters. A good cel with Tinker was bringing $150 and there were a lot fewer of them available than the top scenes for Tangled.... I just there is some definite shadiness with these auctions...

Edit: Yep, definite shill bidding. I looked into it a particular seller's auctions that had extremely high bids. New seller, zero feed back. Five recently ended auctions. When you look at the bidders you will see a brand new account, also with zero feedback, driving the prices up. This same accout had bids on each and every one of this seller's completed auctions. And when you click on that bidder's ID it shows their bidding habits and that account has only bid on five auctions total. Now, why would a brand new account bid on all auctions from one seller with zero feedback when the same items are available BIN for cheaper from other sellers?

I strongly caution anyone considering dropping a lot of money on one of these pins to really think it through.

Thank you SO SO much for posting this. I hope a lot of people see it.

 

[KT07]

black bag the pins and b done with it... We all know that will fix the trouble. It will not stop some crazy ppl from tring to get a lot of them still.... but there will not b all th BS stuff looking for just the right pin... Just be happy with what you get..or trade for one later...

 

[wyllieam]

bad idea. I wouldn't pay $25 for a pin that I didn't like and in some cases one pass in line is all you get before they sell out. Nope...

 

[erudolf]

BUYER BEWARE - just in case anyone was thinking of going for the big Tangled PODM ending tomorrow be aware that the shill bidder is at it again. Only pay the high price if YOU think it is worth it and not because "the market" says it is worth it.

 

[movingthestars]

BUYER BEWARE - just in case anyone was thinking of going for the big Tangled PODM ending tomorrow be aware that the shill bidder is at it again. Only pay the high price if YOU think it is worth it and not because "the market" says it is worth it.

I have been watching that auction. In less than an hour it went from 100 to close to 400. Then I clicked the bidding history and was like "of course." Pretty awesome, pretty awesome.

 

[supertank]

I have been watching that auction. In less than an hour it went from 100 to close to 400. Then I clicked the bidding history and was like "of course." Pretty awesome, pretty awesome.

I sent them a message and reported their auctions as well. We'll see what they respond as their excuse. Usually I get back a "I can't control who bids on my auctions! It's not my problem that I make such good listings that people only want to bid on my items!"

Also, I'm pretty sure I just figured out what their real seller account was. I noticed the listing title said something along the lines of "Piece of Disney Movie II." I thought that the 'II' at the end looked familiar, so I did a broad search and found there are only two sellers who use this 'II' in their piece of Disney movie listings. Interesting...